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30 responses so far ↓
1 LiberalNC // Jul 19, 2007 at 3:23 pm
noooooooo, you can’t be off line when Coy Privette gets arrested for aiding and abetting prostitution!
Get your ass back in here
2 Justin Thibault // Jul 19, 2007 at 5:36 pm
These seats are cheap; but not that cheap.
There’s nothing more that I could bring to it that the news media has - they live for this sort of thing. I’m not a fan of “gotcha” politics - especially when it involves something that has nothing to do with the execution of someone’s duty while they’re in office.
I’ve had my differences with Coy and his political tactics; but this is beyond that: my prayers go out to Coy and his family.
3 Liz // Jul 21, 2007 at 1:00 pm
Coy Privette is still an elected leader and we need him to provide balance on the County Commission. I am tired of hearing the Ind. Trib. report on what John Day says and not about the facts.
After the County lied to the State to get a demo permit for the Tribune Building with asbestos in it (Mike Downes had to declare that it was structurally unsound and a public danger to get the permit…) and John Day and the County Commissioners turned the other way - they have no right to act sanctimonious about upholding the law!!!
Did Coy pay for a prostitute by unsigned check - somehow that does not make sense. If the prostitute/possible check forger was cooperating in setting him up - why was she still arrested for prostitution? What didn’t she do?
Did she cooperate or not and to what extent? How has she suddenly started a new life in a few weeks? Why arrest Coy when the investigation into her forgery is continuing?
Also - the jail construction is on the agenda for Monday’s Council meeting and Coy’s vote could make a difference. John Day has come out and said he does not expect Coy to attend - and no doubt he does not want Coy to help with any efforts to change the proposed prison site. CBC printed flyers to encourage attendance before Coy’s arrest.
John Day was quoted in the Ind. Trib. as saying that the Council would postpone discussion of anything new if Coy is absent - and ” Jail Construction and Design” is listed under new business…
I do not always agree with Coy’s politics, but I wish him well and hope that he continues on the County Commission.
Also, Alex Porter will definitely liven up the race for Concord City Council!
4 Justin Thibault // Jul 21, 2007 at 1:53 pm
Liz - So, you’re saying that you have evidence that the building was structurally sound enough to peform construction around? Why have you not reported this to the proper authorties?
I find it funny that you are so blinded by your opposition to a necessary public safety project that you’ll accuse people of doing things that are illegal; but not provide any real evidence.
The Tribune building was determined to be unsafe for even firefighters to enter long before it was demolished (look at this article from October 2006)
I have a question for you - would you be singing the same tune if it were one of the Commissioners who didn’t agree with the “Citizens for a Better Concord”?
5 Liz // Jul 21, 2007 at 4:49 pm
Justin -
6 Liz // Jul 21, 2007 at 5:03 pm
Justin - Ask Mary Giguere with the State Hazard Control Unit why she did nothing to follow up on Complaint # 906 (from October 2006). Then ask the City of Concord if they have a City Engineer’s report declaring the building to be structurally sound. Then you will be in a better position to provide the appropriate feedback. Perhaps what is not so funny is your eagerness to make a judgement before you have all the facts…
7 Justin Thibault // Jul 21, 2007 at 5:41 pm
The fire marshall was part of the conspiracy; but the City of Concord wasn’t?
I’m a little confused.
Also, at what point was a law broken?
The last time the CBC tried to cook up a scandal about one of the commissioners and I checked the facts - it turned out to be false [CLICK HERE FOR DETAILS]. By the way, have ANY of you ever ONCE apologized to Commissioner Juba for being complict in slander?
I’m sure you’ll excuse me if I don’t spend too much time researching the latest benighted fulmination coming from y’all.
8 jason williams // Jul 21, 2007 at 6:21 pm
sorry to burst your bubble, however the SBI had survelance and actually observed Mr. Privette meeting with the lady several times. The actual dates are inthe arrest warrant. I do think this is a policitical issue. Coy has done nothing but talk about values and how things are hurting good christian values, all the while he is visiting a prostitute. He based his votes on his values and would be very quick to tell you…now it appears we know what Coy’s values are all about.. You have to now wonder what values he actually does have. And if you think this just started you are insane. A 74 year old man doesn’t wake up one day and say….I think I will go visit a prostitute. the lady stole the check during one of their escapades and then tried to cash it, that is when the bank called the police and the story goes on from their.
What is really sick is that by Coy’s actions he has done more to hurt Christianity than all the others he used to complain about. Somewhere there is someone who is going to doubt christianity because of his actions and that is the real tragesty. Coy is a hypocrite, plan and simple.
9 Liz // Jul 21, 2007 at 7:46 pm
Justin - I should apologize to Comm.Juba - please explain that to me… I moved to Concord a year ago, so I did not know anything about the prison plans until last fall. I have gained most of my information from asking County officials - and I exchanged several emails with BobC and John Day about the asbestos in the Tribune Bldg. They were also copied in my emails to Mary Giguere. I will be happy to submit these emails to the public record. My info on Coy comes from various media outlets and I have a flyer explaining the CBC’s position on the jail and call for participation in the public discussion. I still have many unaswered questions about the jail selection process and wonder if there is even a detailed site master plan somewhere. My kids would like to walk downtown and get ice cream and it does not seem as safe as when we moved here. A lot of downtown businesses are closing up - the trophy shop is moving next and TJ’s has to move out in less then 30 days. This prison is already eroding the quality of life in an area that the County still wants to call charming and historic. The propery values that provide necessary revenue will also erode. Do you work for the County?
10 Justin Thibault // Jul 21, 2007 at 10:10 pm
Liz - So, you’re telling me that you moved in and then started complaining about a project that was IN PROGRESS before you moved here? Did you not know that the jail has been in downtown Concord for, oh, 200 years? You should be mad at your realtor - not the Board of Commissioners.
That’s freakin’ amazing. Seriously, some of the Jail Trail people tell me I have no business speaking out about this because my family moved here ONLY 17 years ago.
I guessed their standards have changed. FYI, the fabricated “Juba Scandal” was disproven before you got here apparently. The Jail Trail folks propogated it to malign her character for their own politicial ends.
There’s no need to do anything more to enter in to have your e-mails to John Day and Bob Carruth be public record. Under North Carolina’s Open Meeting laws written communication (including e-mail) are public record. Maybe you should bring this up with the local press - if there’s any truth to it: I’m sure they’d run a story.
As for businesses closing: Retail has had a tough go of it downtown as long as I’ve been here because of the various malls. Most people in Cabarrus County find it more convienent to shop elsewhere. The Municipal and Courthouse crowd is what keeps what little retail downtown alive. The same folks moaning and groaning about the jail project were up in arms at proposals to move the Justice Complex to the old Fairgrounds.
Another case of being careful of what one wishes for.
As for who I work for, while your extensive investigory skills have uncovered a consipracy at every level of local government - they didn’t uncover the About page of this blog that tells all about me. Scroll to the top of the page and click the link that reads “About” - or just CLICK HERE. Go read it and all of your questions about me will be answered.
11 Liz // Jul 21, 2007 at 11:11 pm
Justin - I actually looked at your web site before moving here and still did not have a full picture of the planned prison - I thought it was only going to be a 96-bed annex. This will be a downtown monstrosity. As I have reviewed the history of this project it does not appear to be well thought out. I will be happy to submit my emails to the County for inclusion in the public record and am glad to know that the State of NC mandates their inclusion. When I followed up with BobC, John Day and Mary Giguere following the demo of the Tribune Bldg nobody mentioned a report from the Fire Marshall condeming the building that was suddenly discovered to be in the way of the jail construction. Please tell me the date of that report as I would like to follow up on it - was it before the October 6 demo began - or after??? I stated to all concerned parties that it was my understanding that the building was structurally sound prior to Turner Construction driving their equipment into the building to cooperate with John Day’s attempt to secure its demise. I asked them to clarify further if necessary and they remained silent and my complaint was not followed up - perhaps I should revisit it…The demo of the Tribune was not well thought out either and those actions did bring my attention to the entire jail project and the enormous scope of it. Again, do you know of any detailed site master plan for this planned prison???
12 Justin Thibault // Jul 21, 2007 at 11:45 pm
Jason - As you can tell from Friday’s post - I wanted to talk about anything but this; but here goes.
This story makes for entertaining blog fodder.
In an expontentially growing number of places across the Internet, you can opine about what Coy did and what an awful hypocrite he is. However, out of all of the people who are writing about him, I’m the probably the only one to have shook the man’s hand. We’re still in the Cabarrus Republican Men’s Club together. If you type the words “Coy Privette” into Google, Yahoo, and many other search engines; my writing is at the top of the list. Go click on the Coy Privette section of this site to read. I found his policies and methods maddening. I worked hard for other candidates to defeat him.
I’ve been no apologist for Coy Privette. I think he’s been a lousy Commissioner and has frustrated the efforts of well-meaning, right-minded people with his grandstanding and mendacity.
That’s why what I’m going to say might seem a little strange.
In this case, Coy Privette deserves our support. Not because of anything he has or hasn’t done; but who we claim to be as Christians.
In this case, guilty or not - I think he deserves prayer more than criticism. All of us have sinned. All of us have fallen short. It’s wrong for us to throw rocks - even when we’re picking up the ones that we’ve just been pelted with.
You have to ask yourself - where’s the part of the Internet where people pray for in situations like this? It’s so easy to blather on about the sad state of Christians and how preachy people are such hyprocrites; but let me ask you - what are you doing about it? Have you sent an e-mail of support to Coy as a fellow Christian? Have you even said a prayer for him in passing?
As Christians, we need to supress the reflex to say “Well, at least I’m not as bad as…”…and that’s not just my opinion - Jesus said it in the Parable of the Tax Collector and the Pharisee (Luke 18:9-14)
I’m trying not to be sanctimonious; but as Christians we need to start figuring out what we can do rather than just lamenting on the actions of others.
13 Justin Thibault // Jul 22, 2007 at 12:01 am
Liz - Read the timeline if you really care about when the jail was planned and the annex was planned. The jail was planned first, the annex afterwards.
If you want to see a PICTURE of the notice from the Fire Department - go here.
What’s frustrating is that I shared these links only a few hours ago with you and it’s obvious from your comments that you didn’t even review them. I guess it’s just easier to live in a world where you deal with facts that only support your preconceived notions.
Your e-mails are public record for anybody that cares to read them. If you put a believeable story to the press, I’m sure they’d ask for them. Again, given that I haven’t seen a story - I don’t think you’ve hit that believable threshold.
14 Liz // Jul 22, 2007 at 12:55 am
Justin - perhaps you are the one who lives in a world of preconceived notions. You have claimed that I failed to file a complaint with the State about the Tribune demo, owe Comm. Juba an apology and have not checked any of your links - all false assumptions. Another false assumption would be that the Fire Marshall declared the Tribune Building unstable before the demo began. I suspect that the Fire Marshall picture of a sign that you directed me to was taken after the initial demo by Turner Construction on October 4 - but please correct me if I am wrong.
As far as I can tell, there is no detailed site master plan for this proposed prison. There is no adequate parking plan to include lawyers and visitors. There has been no review for compatability with the neighboring historic district. The traffic, lighting and noise will affect neighboring residents. Where will the waste disposal and exercise yard be? Will the City or County be the primary first responders. There was a county prison riot in Wake Co. this week and their Sheriff stated, “You are going to have this in every jail in the state, this is going to happen at some point in time,” but the responses of BobC and Comm Juba to these concerns shows a high level of denial about the facts (I will provide those emails as well to the County Clerk).
They have not handled this well and we do not need twice as many prison beds as there are county prisoners. If the downtown restaurants and retail are struggling why put them under with this??? It is the downtown lawyers who support this - not downtown restaurants and retail.
But you live in Kannapolis so maybe you should concern yourself more with David Murdock who calls the people of Kannapolis a bunch of ignorant lintheads (Raleigh News Observer June 18 if you can still find it)…
15 LiberalNC // Jul 22, 2007 at 1:13 am
Justin,
Nice to see you’re back. I hope the problems at your workplace are fixed.
I didn’t at first want to react to your statement about the whole Coy thing, but I can’t help myself.
I think almost everyone (certainly everyone I spoke to) feels a little bad for Coy and feels really bad for His family.
It’s hard to blame people for not feeling too bad for Coy himself. During his whole career he has hurt so many people, telling folks how bad they were, while at the same time claiming to be of the highest moral standard himself.
I think the whole scandal is a very sad story but at the same time don’t feel too bad for Coy because it’s not like anyone forced him to visit a prostitute.
And I don’t feel extremely bad for him since I have a strong feeling this “problem” has been going on for years. In the past days 2 people that work in our local medical field have now told me they’ve known for years that “something was up” (ofcourse they didn’t give any details and If they gave them I wouldn’t publish them) and I’ve heard from several other people that for years there have been rumors flying.
The whole issue for me isn’t even with what Coy did exactly. My issue is that Coy’s whole political career has been built upon his “high moral values” and there now seems little left of those values. Therefor I believe it will be hard for Mr. Privette to continue as a politician. I elaborate more on that on my own blog.
Allow me to close with a little snarky comment by saying that I hope you also gave your support (as a christian) to Bill Clinton during his “scandal episode”.
16 Justin Thibault // Jul 22, 2007 at 2:01 pm
OK, first off - I never said that you didn’t file a report with the state. But that doesn’t prove anything. I can register a complaint about a UFO; but that doesn’t mean that little, green men are taking over the world.
As for Joni Juba, *you* probably don’t owe her an apology seeing that all that was worked before you could find Concord on a map; but I think that those who you’ve chosen to associate would do well to reflect on being complicit in slander.
At any rate, you missed the point. As far as I’m concerned, most of the ranting, raving, and accusations of conspiracy from the Jail Trail crowd has worn down their credibility with the rest of the city and the county.
BUT, it’s safe for me to assume that you didn’t follow the links. And why? If you notice the date on the “Worst Government Except for All of The Others” you’ll notice that the date was in October…of 2005. The demo started in 2006.
Again, go read the timeline - you won’t find a County project that had more meetings, open houses, hearings, etc. BEFORE it was approved in 2004.
First, I think this is the quote you were looking for:
“When you go from being a lint head in a cotton mill to a community college student where you study things you never dreamed of, it gets confusing for people,”
It helps when you add a link - like this: [CLICK HERE]
Second, and this is more proof that you’re not reading the links I give you - it states very clearly in my About Page that I live in Concord…I know that the line: “I live here in Concord, NC with my family” can be very confusing.
I’ll try to use smaller words in the future to not be so confusing.
17 Justin Thibault // Jul 22, 2007 at 2:10 pm
Yes, it makes excellent blog fodder for you and the gang at BlueNC. It confirms everything you “know” about Christians.
Oh, I’m sure it will make people feel good and vindicated that “they were right and Coy was wrong” that “they are good and he was bad”, etc.
This is an excellent political opportunity for liberals and even conservative Coy critics. Even Wonkette is picking up the story. I’m sure it won’t be too long until people start noticing that it’s Coy’s picture above the fold on the front page of the Carolina Journal.
That isn’t the point. I wasn’t admonishing everyone. I was speaking about the appropriate response as Christians. It’s just as wrong for me to opine about Coy’s alleged acts as it was for him to hurl rocks at your friend. That’s the point.
The church I belonged to prayed for him and our nation and that the process would conclude. I joined them.
Same situation here.
Kinda hard when people don’t fall into the narrow, little stereotypes that you create for them - isn’t it?
18 Aaron // Jul 22, 2007 at 3:16 pm
Woo HOO! Finally a comments thread that doesn’t just consist of me and Justin arguing over semantic principles!
LIZ: Are you a Law enforcement officer, officer of the court, Probation officer, corrections officer, judge, magistrate or in any other way involved in the Criminal Justice System in Cab. County?
I’m guessing the answer is no, so please go and sit quietly in the back of the room.
Secondly, since you’ve only been in Concord a year, you probably aren’t aware that less than 1/4 mile from downtown where you like taking your kids to get ice cream is the Logan Communtiy which holds all the City’s public housing units and has the highest drug, robbery, assault, murder and burglary rates in the COUNTY. So bitching about the “safety of a downtown jail” should be second to your own safety at home if you live within 24 blocks of the “Logan Community”
As far as downtown businesses are concerned, your youth in this community superceeds your ability to comment. You are no doubt unfamiliar with Yorke and Wadsworth Hardware. They were in business for over 100 years in downtown. As a child this is where we got everything for our house on Georgia St. They closed a few years after the first Lowes opened up across from First Assembly. So I guess you would have spoken out loudly about how evil and wrong it was that the CBC and City council gave Lowes a permit.
Downtown areas in all cities have been on a decline over the years and if Charlotte is any measuring stick, you have to pump billions of taxpayer dollars into them to make them viable for any type of family activity. If a thriving downtown is what you are looking for then you really need to smack your Realtor.
As for your safety, I would think that a new jail would be something you’d be in favor of. But you are a typical “have your cake and eat it too” S. Union Street people. You want a new jail, you just dont want in near you.
It’s funny Justin mention the old fairground idea. I live less than 50 yards from the old fairgrounds and would have been cheering and cutting backflips if they said they were building a jail there.
But unlike you, I HAVE worked in the Cabarrus County Criminal Justice system and I DO know exactly what it takes to make a community safer. I am WELL AWARE of the costs associated with bussing inmates to and from a courthouse and it makes too much sense to keep those inmates in a central location. Your arguments are based on what you read and hear from politicans and the press. Mine are based on solid, first hand experience of what an undersized, non centrally located housing facility does to a crime fighting system.
In a few years (or decades more likely) we will build another satellite housing unit for sentenced inmates and the currently debated jail will be converted to a pretrial holding facility. Quietest kept, that is the longterm vision. But announcing that we need to build a building large enough to fulfill our needs for more than four years would bring whining from too many people. So we’ll do it as we always to. A little at a time and always two steps behind what we really need.
Lastly, your most recent post provides finite evidence of your ignorance “twice as many beds as there are inmates”???
You need to go sit in the magistrates office and watch all of the repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat violent felons, gangbangers and drugdealers (almost all of which live within 1/4 mile of downtown) get a written promise because there are no beds in the jail. Or perhaps you should sit in court and watch felonies get reduced to misdemeanors or probation violators get more probation because of no way to house them. We have over 100 of OUR inmates serving time in state prisons because we have no place to put them here.
Your mention of the Wake County riot further proves this out. We currently have 4-6 inmates in cells made for two inmates. This type of overcrowding is what leads to riots and there isn’t enough room for enough staff in the offices to put down a riot if one were to start.
We’d all love to put the Cabarrus County Jail in Richmond County but it just doesn’t make any logical sense to do so. Before the whiners in downtown complain about how terrible this new jail is, they need to look at what the alternatives of the status quo is. These are the same folks who will bitch about a tax hike to buy 3 busses and hire 24 new deputies to bus the inmates in for trial. Oh, and transporting criminals to downtown on busses is a hell of alot more risky than keeping them behind brick walls in down town!
19 Liz // Jul 22, 2007 at 3:38 pm
Aaron and Justin,
20 Liz // Jul 22, 2007 at 4:51 pm
Aaron and Justin, I still am not getting answers to my questions about the timing of the Fire Marshall’s condemnation, the existence of a detailed site master plan, parking and traffic, first repsonders, lighting and noise and compatibility with the historic district. This leads me to believe that the answers are not out there at all and things are not being done right with this prison project. (I maintain that the State law was violated when misleading information about the condition of the building at the initial 10/4 demo was given to the State and that BobC and Comm Juba have known this) You can find the story about the October 4 demo in the Charlotte Observer website, or respond like Mary Giguere who said, “I don’t read the Observer,” when I requested that she follow up with the Tribune bldgdemo. When you are at the charlotte.com web site - do a search for David Murdock. Justin keeps suggesting that I follow up with the press. - Justin, remember the June 18 story (by reporter Tim Simmons of the Raleigh News Observer) that quotes David Murdock talking about the citizens of Kannapolis, “When you go from being a linthead in a cotton mill, to a community college student where you study things you never dreamed of, it gets confusing for people, but it will sink in.” Well you won’t find much on David Murdock on either Observer website (Charlotte or Raleigh) anymore - try it. (Must have been some conversation between the Murdock people and the McLatchy people) - Then tell me about the free press…That is why I do appreciate the existence of web sites such as yours - so thanks for your web site!
21 LiberalNC // Jul 22, 2007 at 5:50 pm
Oh, I’m sure it will make people feel good and vindicated that “they were right and Coy was wrong” that “they are good and he was bad”, etc.
I’m not saying he’s bad (although he sure made a ton of bad decisions), I’m saying that I’m certainly not worse than he is. The Problem Coy has is that he thought he was better than a lot of the rest of us.
Yes, it makes excellent blog fodder for you and the gang at BlueNC. It confirms everything you “know” about Christians.
No, it confirms everything I know about people who call themselves Christians and start telling everyone else what they should do. The problem is that those people aren’t real Christians. My theory that the ones that are yelling the loudest about “moral values” usually turn out to be the biggest pervs themselves keeps on being proven.
Since I haven’t seen you standing on the corner of the street yet proclaiming how bad everyone’s morals are, you don’t fall into that category. Congratulations, your medal is on the way.
22 Justin Thibault // Jul 22, 2007 at 8:56 pm
Aaron - Decaf…it’s great.
Liz - I’ve answered your question about the date of the picture I took more than once. Please let me know if English is a second language for you
LiberalNC - You might have not seen me telling everyone how screwed up they are; but you haven’t seen me teach my small group at church.
23 Aaron // Jul 22, 2007 at 10:47 pm
decaf is like non-alcoholic beer: What’s the point?
Personally, I dont care what happened to the Tribune building… It was empty… Talk about semantic arguments…
As for first responders, it’s a county building so maybe the county should handle that. (The ones in tan uniforms with guns and training) Do you have a better idea?
Noise? what noise? you mean the 20 decibels coming from the AC units?
Get a decent question on here and perhaps Justin, myself or someone else will answer it… All this has been is the typical, elitist Jail Trail crowd babbling about things that are secondary to the number one priority of a government: The protection of its citizens from unlawful acts of force… No jail means no protection. I, nor most people in Cabarrus County care what it looks like because your average citizen would rather be safe than have a pretty building that he/she sees twice per year.
24 jason williams // Jul 23, 2007 at 8:00 pm
I agree with you Justin. I have in fact said a prayer for Coy, I hope that he does what he needs to do to redeem himself in the eyes of the lord. I agree that he deserves our support as a person, father and husban, but not as a politician. I guess I disagree with you in regards to this being a political issue. If it was any of the other commsioners I would probably agree with you but not in regards to Coy, and here is why.
Coy should be held politically in to the same standards as he held others, but obviously not himself. He would be very quick to tell you about other candidates morals and values. In fact he has said several times that values are the most important thing that a candidate should be judged on, therefore we should judge him just as he wanted us too, by his values. He wanted “candidates” to be judged by their morals and values, so we should judge him as a “candidate” by those standards that he so desired for decades. After all, do you think that if a political rival were to be in this situation he wouldn’t be talking about the lack of moral leadership in Government?
25 Justin Thibault // Jul 24, 2007 at 6:20 am
Jason - I think the point I’m trying to make is that Christians are quicker to throw rocks at each other than we are to bear each other’s burdens.
I will have to agree with you on the situation if the tables were turned. E-mail boxes across the County would have at least three messages a day from Harold Smith and even then half of it would be untrue.
That being said, we need to be careful not to base the standard of our moral lives on others.
26 Miller // Jul 24, 2007 at 8:35 pm
The David Murdock quote was made in the media tent following the capping off ceremony of the UNC building. The comment was clearly not directed to any city although it could have easy applied to Concord, Salisbury, Greensboro or most any other city in North Carolina with a textile heritage. The point, if not subverted by inference, simply is that there is a drastic cultural change about to take place in this greater community to an extent most of us have not comprehended yet. The banner cry in Cabarrus may even some day change from “That’s racin’” to “That’s human genomics.”
27 Justin Thibault // Jul 24, 2007 at 10:29 pm
Miller - I agree
28 Liz // Jul 25, 2007 at 12:44 am
Miller - Murdock’s remarks were made at a spring ceremony marking the construction progress at the Kannapolis campus and was referring to a program (dubbed Biotech 101) at Rowan-Cabarrus Community College designed to screen potential local employees and make sure they could handle the high school level math and science - but nice try on the spin… Now, I am going to try one last time to explain to Justin that if you go to the web site for the Raleigh News Observer that reported the comment - Justin that is newsobserver.com and put David Murdock’s name in the search box and hit search (not so hard Justin if you try) the article will not come up and neither will much else - try it…
29 Justin Thibault // Jul 25, 2007 at 12:52 am
Liz - Well, move over Erin Brockovich! You’ve certainly uncovered something - a newspaper with a website that sucks! That never happens. The search function on their site doesn’t work right; but how can I magically link to it whenever I want? Like, oh, this: [LIZ, IF YOU CLICK HERE YOU'LL SEE THE "HIDDEN" ARTICLE]
What are you getting at with this?
30 Aaron // Jul 26, 2007 at 2:31 pm
Liz,
Can you tell me what the point of the discussion over Murdocks comments is about (other than the Area 51, Truth about 9-11 coverup stuff.
I don’t see anything wrong with Murdocks comment. How can anyone else? The point is you don’t have to be a rocket scientist to run a loom 12 hours a day. So before you can get a job doing something at a biotech facility you made need to get some education.
As for your jail comments, I still don’t see anything relavent to your position. The CURRENT jail sits 30 feet from where the new jail will sit. Your comments about first responders, noise, parking, lighting and the like are moot. Is the government center or current courthouse “compatible” with the “historic district”? No, they are not… So what’s your point?
Before you go creating conspiracies, go sit in district court for 4 hours one day… (You apparantly live within walking distance)