I’m moving the thread from the Mitt Romney Friday Five post to here and to continue asking this question:
Who do you like for 2008? For President, Gov, Board of Commissioners, School Board, etc. - it’s all open.
Update: Two threads have sprung from this one: The President’s Legacy and the possibility of a McCrory Candidacy for NC Gov.
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1 Carolina Politics // Dec 9, 2007 at 11:14 pm
I can think of plenty of reasons not to vote for Mitt Romney which have nothing to do with his Mormonism.
2 Justin Thibault // Dec 10, 2007 at 6:25 am
Such as?
3 Carolina Politics // Dec 12, 2007 at 8:51 pm
It’s not hard to do. He was adamantly pro-choice when he ran for Senate and Governor, but once he decides to run for President he has a “conversion” on the issue.
He appointed Kathy Tuttman to the Massachusetts Superior Court.
His health insurance mandate in Massachusetts is not working and the state has already let 10% of the non-insured off the hook because it’s too costly.
He was against Don’t Ask Don’t Tell, now he supports it. In Oct. ‘94 he said being gay shouldn’t disclude someone from the Boy Scouts.
He supported affirmative action when he ran for Senate and as governor.
He supports the Assault Weapons Ban and then became a member of the NRA when he decided to run for President.
He was for the McCain-Kennedy amnesty bill last year. Now he is against it.
The guy is a phony. He is not a genuine candidate and he will get slaughtered in the general election because you can’t trust anything he says. He has changed positions more times than a weather vane in a tornado.
4 Aaron // Dec 12, 2007 at 8:57 pm
Carolina- Thanks for giving me a good 5 more reasons I don’t like this guy…
5 Justin Thibault // Dec 13, 2007 at 5:30 pm
Carolina - What do you think about the ethics questions surrounding Huckabee?
And October of 1994? I don’t even want to admit to what I was doing in 1994.
Aaron - I didn’t notice that there were five until now.
6 Carolina Politics // Dec 13, 2007 at 6:47 pm
I think Huckabee would be the worst thing that could happen to the GOP if he gets the nomination. He’ll just advance another high spending “compassionate conservative” Bush agenda and probably throw us over the $10 trillion debt mark, providing Bush doesn’t get us there before he’s out.
7 Justin Thibault // Dec 14, 2007 at 2:29 am
Carolina - Who do you like then?
8 Aaron // Dec 14, 2007 at 6:25 am
There’s actually like 8 reasons in the post. But I already knew about his switcharoo on abortion, gays in the military and gun control.
9 Carolina Politics // Dec 14, 2007 at 7:52 pm
The ideal candidate needs to be able to unite social conservatives and fiscal conservatives in the Republican Party as well be able to attract independents, libertarians, and Reagan Democrats. The Republicans lost those three groups last year because they threw fiscal responsibility in the trash and pandered constantly to the social conservative wing.
I think either John McCain or Fred Thompson could do the job.
10 Thierry Wernaers // Dec 15, 2007 at 4:01 pm
Huckabee is my ideal candidate. I think even Dennis Kucinich could beat him.
11 MarkMartin // Dec 15, 2007 at 7:52 pm
I plan on voting for Fred Thompson.
12 Justin Thibault // Dec 15, 2007 at 9:54 pm
Thierry - While I’ve only made a decision about one candidate whose announced their candidacy in the 2008 GOP Primaries: Bob Carruth for Cabarrus BOC, I can tell you from bitter experience that one can be setting themselves up for disappointment for discounting a “man from Hope”
13 Steve Smith // Dec 16, 2007 at 12:15 pm
Why does no one in this threat like John McCain? Should have put him in office last time… He’s a War Hero, fiscal conservative, proven leader and, in my opinion, a good man. Come on, guys, can’t ya’ll see the forest for the trees??? The Blue Dog Democrats will even vote for him…
14 Justin Thibault // Dec 17, 2007 at 9:00 am
Steve - I really liked McCain 2000 - not as crazy about McCain Vista.
I think that if the GOP would have run McCain in 2000, the election would have been a rout; and we’d still have a majority in the Congress. However, what happened - well, it happened.
Where McCain made some mistakes was that he spent a lot of money like he was a front-runner - when you’re really only a front-runner a couple of months before the first primary (all other stats can’t be trusted) in a national election. That let the electorate go through the evolution of Rudy, Mitt, and - now - Huck.
I think it shows an evolution that those of us in the GOP should get used to. First, we go after someone with experience, then someone that speaks to our current situation, then the guy who spends a lot of money, and then we he runs out of cash the “Christian” candidate wins out.
Almost sounds like 2000 all over again.
15 Justin Thibault // Dec 17, 2007 at 9:14 am
Mark - I could support Fred…given that he decides to wake up at some point.
16 Steve Smith // Dec 17, 2007 at 11:44 am
Justin
“Almost sounds like 2000 all over again.”
Except this time the Democrats win….
17 Justin Thibault // Dec 17, 2007 at 2:04 pm
Steve - I think that 10 1/2 months before an election is too early to call it. In my lifetime, most of the national elections were decided in the margins. I think that the GOP has a good shot - esp. if the Dems run Hillary.
18 Mark Smith // Dec 17, 2007 at 5:44 pm
I’m not a Huckabee fan. I don’t want another man from Hope, Arkansas in the White House.
I’m definitely not a McCain fan. I don’t agree with his stance on immigration. In addition, when the “nuclear option” in the Senate was about to be debated on judicial nominees, McCain lead a group of 14 Senators to go against the leadership of both parties. McCain seems to be too much of an individualist and not a team player. I give his some of the credit/blame for the Republicans losing the House and Senate in 2006.
I like Tom Tancredo, but he has no chance of winning.
Ron Paul is an isolationist, but has a lot of good ideas. Keep your eyes on him. He may offer some surprises in the primaries.
Fred and Rudi are ok.
Having said all of that and reading the posts, I’m still like Romney.
19 Mark Smith // Dec 17, 2007 at 5:47 pm
Let’s talk about Governor of NC. Bill Graham has my attention. He has fresh ideas and I believe he can get the job done.
Here’s the main reason why I’m leaning towards him. People in Raleigh (legislature) do not care about out areas west of Greensboro. I am afraid that if Fred Smith of Johnston County is elected, than our area and the Charlotte-metro area will still be neglected. However, if a person from the area is elected, than attention will be given to our area.
That is just a feeling and I have no facts to back it up. Yes, it defies logic. However, sometimes you just have to go with your gut-feeling.
My gut-feeling tells me to support Bill Graham.
20 Aaron // Dec 17, 2007 at 5:49 pm
Is it unusual and edgy for the libertarian commentor to throw Ron Pauls name into the fray?
Didn’t think so either…
Seriously though,
Rominy is the girl running for home coming queen and Huck is his nemisis, the cheerleader who’s always bad mouthing her behind her back and calling her fat.
Fred Thompson is like a creepy old uncle who hugs his nieces just a little too long.
Giuliani is always on “offense”
McCain won’t get elected cause there’s too many “racists” like me who aren’t for unconditional amnesty for 12 million people. (He’s forgotten that there’s a whole lotta folks south of the Mason-Dixon Line.
SO, without further ado may I present to you: Alan Keyes… Anyone??? Anyone???
21 Justin Thibault // Dec 17, 2007 at 8:51 pm
Mark - Tom Tancredo? If he were older, I would wonder if he spent time in a Nazi reeducation camp.
Huckabee would be the first man from Hope. Clinton was from Hot Springs.
And McCain for losing the Republican majority? He wasn’t IMing young boys and orchestrating shady funding schemes in redistricting battles in Texas, he’s kept a strong line on Iraq, and he opposed most of the funding debacles related to compassionate conservatism. The leadership (White House, National GOP, and Congressional Leadership) lost touch with the American people - it’s just that simple.
Like you, I was leaning towards Bill Graham until his performance at the GOP Christmas Party. I had the feeling that I was at the pre-meeting for Krystallnacht. It’s one thing to be for more enforcement against Illegal Immigratiion - it’s another to hand out the white sheets.
Aaron - In 1996, I voted for Alan Keyes in the primary, because I wanted a lone vote to cause his name to appear on the TV when I watched the results. 700 people across the state had the same idea and my plan was foiled.
22 Aaron // Dec 17, 2007 at 10:11 pm
Well Dang it Justin, I was thinking the same thing when I wrote my name in for city council for district 3 and they just lumped all the write in’s together and my name never made it onto the TV screen.
Wonder if they’ll do that for the Primary and just put Rominy, Huckabee and Giuliani’s names on there and put “all others” below it. Seems to be all I hear these days is what Rominy said about Huck and visa-versa. It’s almost worse than when Nicole Ritchie and Paris Hilton got into it last year…
I swear to god we just need to have a beauty padgent and settle this primary thing once and for all. (might even improve voter turnout)
23 Mark Smith // Dec 17, 2007 at 10:24 pm
Justin:
You are correct that Sen. McCain wasn’t involved in scandals with pages or redistricting Texas. He has always been a strong supporter of the war. But in April, 2005, he gathered a group of Senators to vote against the “nuclear option” of changing the rules of the Senate. This made a number or Republicans upset because he went against the leadership. In addition, he appeared to care more about himself than being a team player.
In addition, I strongly disagree with his view on illegal immigration, especially since he and Sen. Kennedy wrote the “amnesty bill” this summer.
As for Mr. Huckabee and Mr. Clinton - both are from Hope, AR. Mr. Clinton later moved to Hot Springs. If you recall from the 1992 campaign, Mr. Clinton often stated that he, “still believed in a place called Hope.”
By the way, what’s the deal with the WWII references to the plight of the Jewish people and comparison of modern day political figures to those of the Third Reich? You’ve done this on more than one occasion.
24 Thierry Wernaers // Dec 17, 2007 at 11:48 pm
“what’s the deal with the WWII references to the plight of the Jewish people and comparison of modern day political figures to those of the Third Reich? You’ve done this on more than one occasion.”
Because once you start blaming people who look different than you and are from a different culture than you for all the problems in your own country, you are opening up a huge can of worms. It might be good for your short term popularity, but mark my words, it will come back to seriously haunt you.
These are not my words, but the words of My grandfather who proudly served in the armed resistance during WW 2.
I’m hoping that a lot of politicians, like Tancredo and most Republicans and some Democrats, will listen to these words, but I’m afraid it might be too late already.
25 Aaron // Dec 18, 2007 at 6:13 am
I gotta go with Thierry on this one. Most readers of this blog know I’m against amnesty for illegals but in terms of political principles it’s like number 6 on the list. Tancredo has taken just a little too far in my opinion. His ideals on enforcing existing laws, building the fence and punishing employees who scab out for illegals is supported by 95% of Americans with common sense.He just takes it a little too far with the rhetoric and the “end of the world” logic. I think that’s why Justin made that comparison, because it’s right in line with what the Reich would have said.
26 Justin Thibault // Dec 18, 2007 at 8:52 am
Mark - I think that if more GOP members of Congress weren’t team players with the corrupt leadership - we’d have a majority. I’m all for party unity; but when the leadership starts straying from the principles of the Party (and the letter of the law) someone has to say something.
Clinton being “a man from Hope” would be like me saying I’m a “man from Atlanta” even though I was there a matter of months.
27 Justin Thibault // Dec 18, 2007 at 9:15 am
All - Nazi references on the Internet are kind of tired. So, let me explain a little bit more.
I studied German in high school and college (I don’t remember too much of it, except you’ll see me capitalizing nouns unnecessarily from time to time). Anyone who studies it from people with a deep familiarity with the Nazis (one of the professors in our department still had her tattoo from the concentration camp) will learn that it wasn’t just a few wackos that made it possible - it was a passive German public.
Also, you learn that it wasn’t something strange in their DNA or that they were stupid - it happened because they were the most advanced society at the time (yes, they surpassed us) and they didn’t want to give up their top dog status.
The reason that I made the reference in this thread and the Mike Easley thread is because it’s appropriate.
Certain politicians - on both sides - are using illegal immigration to get Americans mad at people who don’t look like them and don’t sound like them. Make all of the phony macroeconomic canards and sanctimonious comments about the law that you want to - people wouldn’t be upset if most illegals had a fair complexion and spoke the Queen’s English. And the Americans who are most upset about this don’t have the education or the intellect to navigate the same legal immigration path that they insist immigrants should go through.
If you read the Mike Easley post, you’ll find that this strategy was used by other campaigns in the US: most recently George Wallace.
Those running for office should deal with the economic and social realities of a changing world instead of just blaming the brown people.
28 Brad Spry // Dec 18, 2007 at 12:49 pm
For President, I’m looking for someone different, and I could care less about party affiliation.
Honestly, I’m tracking Obama and Paul. It’s wonderful to have two good choices.
I also keep an ear out for Kucinich and Gravel, either would make a great Vice. Reasoning, logic, and ideas appeal to me, what can I say? I know I’m different
I am most concerned about the post-Bush cleanup, because it’s going to take a long, long time.
We have one hell of a mess to clean up, and that serves as the basis for my requirement: who can clean best? Trust me when I tell you, it’s going to take more than eight years.
We have interjected ourselves into a strife which has existed for thousands of years.
Who do we think we are?
29 Justin Thibault // Dec 18, 2007 at 1:12 pm
Brad -
I knew I could count on this thread for a little humor.
You could say something similar about the Balkins; but the same people opposing the Iraq War didn’t have a problem with our involvement there.
30 Aaron // Dec 18, 2007 at 1:35 pm
“You could say something similar about the Balkins; but the same people opposing the Iraq War didn’t have a problem with our involvement there.”
That’s a very good point. But your logic falls on deaf ears. We had the support of a bunch of powder blue helment wearing sissies in the Balkans. We didn’t have the same in Iraq. Sure, we had a coalition, but no blue helments.
That’s one of my main gripes about US foreign policy. Everyone thinks that as long as some UN silly-nannies are along for the ride we can do anything we damned well please. Take away the UN and we are a bunch of bullies shoving democracy down peoples throats…
31 Steve Smith // Dec 18, 2007 at 2:42 pm
Mark;
You want a Governor from this area then look no further than the Mayor of Charlotte, Pat McCrory,
http://www.patmccrory.com/biography/. I think he would be a great choice, but what do I know…I like John McCain…
Justin
Do we know who is running for County Commission yet…??? Mark Smith, I hope…
32 Justin Thibault // Dec 18, 2007 at 4:51 pm
Aaron - I think it’s more of a function of the party affiliation of the guy sitting in the White House.
Steve - I’d be surprised if McCrory will run. If he did, that’d be tough on Orr. However, half of the state GOP is undecided. We work better under an “heir apparent” model.
As for County Commission, only Bob has announced so far. I’d imagine that Joni Juba will come around. She needs to at least. If you don’t see her, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Larry Griffin take a crack at it again. He placed pretty well for a newcomer in the last election.
Bob and/or Joni would be tough to beat.
33 Thierry Wernaers // Dec 18, 2007 at 6:06 pm
“You could say something similar about the Balkins; but the same people opposing the Iraq War didn’t have a problem with our involvement there.”
That might have something to do with the fact that the reasons for going into the former Yugoslavia area turned out to be valid as opposed to total lies and falsifications for going into Iraq.
34 Aaron // Dec 18, 2007 at 7:12 pm
Thierry- The bogus WMD nonsense aside, are the Iraqi’s better off today versus under Sadaam?
More to the point of this thread:
As a person who, (inspite of his libertarian leanings) is still on the fence about Ron Paul: What is the general sense of the guy as a candidate? It’s been hard to find anything but fawning praise for him on the net. (Kinda like that movie Snakes on a Plane and we all know what a piece of trash that was)
He seems like a real conservative, all be it an isolationist in some senses…
This being a more “moderate” corner of the net, anyone got some real opinions other than the crap that’s out there?
35 Thierry Wernaers // Dec 18, 2007 at 8:05 pm
Aaron:
“The bogus WMD nonsense aside, are the Iraqi’s better off today versus under Sadaam?”
The answer to that would be a resounding NO. These days they don’t have water, electricity and they can’t walk on the street without being afraid of having their head chopped off by religious nutjobs or being blown to pieces while going to the market. That’s why millions of Iraqi’s don’t even live in Iraq anymore.
Of course it was really bad under Saddam too, but at least they had water to drink, so the situation certainly hasn’t improved.
36 Justin Thibault // Dec 18, 2007 at 9:33 pm
Theirry -
Well, that was true if you were in Baghdad. Outside of the majority Sunni area - the story was very different. A good friend of mine was there during the initial push and he told tales of sewage in the streets and rotting trash everywhere.
Sadly, the situation in Iraq was and is a little more complicated than a 27 second soundbite.
37 Justin Thibault // Dec 18, 2007 at 9:38 pm
Aaron - Probably one of the best treatments of Paul was by one of my favorite bloggers - Joe Carter in a piece called “Paul’s Adolescent Ideology“. For full disclosure, it wasn’t long after that Carter went to work for Huckabee.
38 Steve Smith // Dec 18, 2007 at 10:01 pm
Justin and Theirry
Whats the answer??? I like John McCain!!!
39 Steve Smith // Dec 18, 2007 at 10:03 pm
Justin
I do like Bob Carruth for the County Commission as well as Mark Smith if he runs…
40 Thierry Wernaers // Dec 18, 2007 at 11:36 pm
Steve Smith:
You know what I think the answer is. It starts with an O and ends with bama.
If he’s the Democratic candidate I think the only guy on the Republican side with any chance at all would be McCain, but even he would fall far short.
41 Mark Smith // Dec 19, 2007 at 12:21 pm
Let’s be objective here… look at Obama. Yes, he’s young and charismatic. In addition, he lacks experience:
• In 1996, he was elected IL State Representative
• In 2004, he was elected US Senator of IL
So, he only has 10 years of experience in politics and not a stellar record1. That’s ok. How about his previous experience?
Basically, Obama worked as a community organizer, university lecturer, and civil rights lawyer before running for public office.
So, tell me about his executive experience. Where has he built a business, managed a payroll, made sure all of the bills were paid on time? When Congress raised the minimum wage, how did that affect his bottom line?
Ok, so he didn’t run a private or public company. Tell me about the city, county, or state that he ran. Tell me how he advanced legislation and made things happen.
The point is you can’t. None of the democrats (except MAYBE Joe Biden) have the experience to lead the country. On the Republicans, you have a number of candidates who have been executives and made things happen.
Obama is a charming man. He represents a fresh approach to solving our problems. But when it comes to handling a $2.9 trillion dollar budget, dealing with 435 congressional premadonnas who only care to bring money back to their district (yes I’m talking in general), dealing with fanatics whose sole goal in life is seeing the citizens of the US die, and being the leader of the free world… I just don’t think he is the best person to do it.
For what it’s worth…
42 Justin Thibault // Dec 19, 2007 at 12:32 pm
Mark -
Just a warning, Cheap Seats Fans…an incoming standard Obama Lincoln rebuttle in 5, 4, 3, 2…
I don’t have a line on our chances in 2008; but the great thing about being a Republican is that now is that our fourth-place, TV actor candidate has more substantive Washington experience than the top three Democratic front-runners…combined.
43 Steve Smith // Dec 19, 2007 at 12:53 pm
Mark
Theirry has never claimed that Obama has any experience. He just likes him because he’s democrat or because he’s young or whatever. Everyone knows that Obama has no experience. George W. didn’t do too good with all of his experience. Notwithstanding that said, I agree that Obama is not the man for the job of President. Now we await the incomming Obama Lincoln rebuttle …1, Zero…
44 Aaron // Dec 19, 2007 at 4:33 pm
Steve- I responded to you on my blog.
Thierry- Obama’s lack of experience will destroy him. He might be able to run the country but he can’t run the mudslinging side of a campaign. My reasoning is that he’s too decent of a guy to resort to pointless accusations and personal attacks on the level that the Hillary/Edwards machine will go to once the Iowa Caucus is over.
Justin- Good article. I too have had questions over exactly what Mr. Carter pointed out. But, as I’ve said before, the chances of me finding someone with my exact values is completely impossible. As we’ve begun to see in France (incoming Belgian retort in 3…2…1..) it will take many years for anything substantive to be done to reform our country to a point of fiscal solvency but a guy like Ron Paul does have the track record on domestic spending to start us down the road to something that a more well rounded guy could finish up.
Gold Standard nonsense and complete isolationism aside, his points on the drug war, federal education and inflation are something whacko’s like me have been harping on for years. It’s nice to see someone other than fringe webmasters and cooky bloggers(myself included) talking about something other than the war on terror and social security lockboxes…
45 Carolina Politics // Dec 19, 2007 at 7:53 pm
I’m voting for Ron Paul in the South Carolina primary.
46 Thierry Wernaers // Dec 20, 2007 at 12:01 am
You guys are funny.
Standard reply of Obama to the “experience” question: “Nobody had more experience than Bush and my cousin Cheney and we saw how that worked out.”
It comes down to what experience you’re talking about. I don’t think we need someone who’s experienced at playing the “political game”, i think we need a whole new set of rules to the game.
I think we need someone who’s experienced at having good judgment. I believe Obama has plenty of that.
Mark Smith:
“Where has he built a business, managed a payroll, made sure all of the bills were paid on time?
From what I remember hearing, Dubya had quite some experience in running businesses, I seem to remember he ran all of them into the ground. I’m still sure you voted for the guy though.
Aaron:
I don’t know what Belgium has to do with France, besides everyone here calling fries French when they were actually invented in Belgium
I’m sure you know i like some things about Ron Paul, his stance on the war, the war on drugs, civil liberties, etc…
I really don’t like his economic viewpoints.
That’s my problem with Libertarians. They’re supposed to be very progressive when it comes to social issues (which is why i don’t get Paul’s abortion viewpoint), yet extremely conservative when it comes to the government and economy. I’m only with you when it comes to the social issues.
47 Thierry Wernaers // Dec 20, 2007 at 12:22 am
Apparently Tancredo is pulling out of the race.
All together now: ADIOS AMIGO!
48 Aaron // Dec 20, 2007 at 6:24 am
Thierry- as to your Belgian “comment” I never knew that “freedom fries” were invented there…
Pauls economic policies are sketchy for me too. I like the dismantling of the redundant federal agencies but this whole gold standard and no income taxes with no mention of how else we are going to pay for things is a serious problem for me. I’d like him more if he just openly supported the fair tax.
As for Barak, I’d say that I agree with you on your statements about “experience.” I think a fresh perspective would do wonders for the country regardless of the jersey the person is wearing. But the actual policies he’s supporting are basically the same one’s that everyone else on the Democrat side is using. That’s why he won’t get my vote…
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50 Justin Thibault // Dec 21, 2007 at 8:53 am
Mark -
It wasn’t until I was listening to a recap of the GOP race thus far that I thought of this comment and compared it against history.
I think John McCain is having a hard time because he’s a team player. Name the two legislative issues that were the most spectacular failures for the White House: Social Security and Immigration Reform. In both of these issues, John McCain publicly worked with the White House - and in both he took more than his share of the shots.
And what was the thanks the guy got? The President’s father’s tacit endorsement of Mitt Romney.
The point is that if anyone has gotten a raw deal from the GOP in this race - it’s John McCain.
51 Steve Smith // Dec 21, 2007 at 8:09 pm
Justin
You hit the nail right on the head.
52 Justin Thibault // Dec 23, 2007 at 12:35 am
Steve - Oddly enough, I’m still not sure who I’m backing in the Primaries for President.
53 Steve Smith // Dec 23, 2007 at 7:28 pm
Justin
Thierry may have a suggestion for you if your willing to go door to door in South Carolina…
54 MarkMartin // Jan 4, 2008 at 12:33 pm
What is the deal with Fred Thompson. Just last week I read somewhere that he may withdraw, then he finishes 3rd in Iowa? I want to support him, but come on… do something already!
55 MarkMartin // Jan 4, 2008 at 12:54 pm
As far as the BOC race, if Bob and Joni run; then I will support Bob and not file as a candidate.
56 Justin Thibault // Jan 5, 2008 at 6:01 am
Mark - First, I heard that Fred was considering dropping out and supporting McCain
Second, if Joni doesn’t run - are you announcing that you would?
57 Mark Smith // Jan 7, 2008 at 11:57 am
As of this moment, Fred Thompson is not dropping out of the race. The Politico story was mentioned on Rush Limbaugh’s show last week (Wed, Thurs, or Fri). However, I cannot find the link on Rush’s site where he mentions this.
Nevertheless, the Thompson campaign has said that it’s not true. Thompson is not dropping out as of this time.
My two cents: this may change after the SC primary and Super Tuesday. But as of this time, Thompson is still in the race.
So, for all of the Thompson supporters, keep hoping and working.
58 Steve Smith // Jan 7, 2008 at 12:39 pm
Mark Smith
That sounds like an endorcement of Thompson to me!!
Mark Martin
Are you running for County Commission or not????
Justin
Time for you to endorse someone. We await your guidance….
59 Justin Thibault // Jan 7, 2008 at 1:39 pm
Steve - Y’all are grownups who can make your own decision…especially when it comes to the Presidency. Also, NC will likely not be a player in the nomination for president.
The only candidates I’m backing right now are: Bob Carruth for County Commission and our incumbent delegation to Raleigh (Johnson, Barnhart, and Hartsell) and Washington (Hayes & Dole - NOT Watt [vote Fisher instead]). I could change my mind; but I feel pretty strongly about these.
60 Steve Smith // Jan 8, 2008 at 8:21 pm
Well Congrats to my Pick, John McCain, he may very well be back in the race again. Now if he can beat Huckabee in South Carolina?????
61 Aaron // Jan 8, 2008 at 11:33 pm
Steve, No, he can’t beat the Huckster in SC. Too many whack job evangelicals who vote with their Bibles.
McCain made the mistake of repeating “I’m a former military man” over and over instead of “I’m a Baptist Minister” like Huckaboo:)
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63 Steve Smith // Jan 9, 2008 at 9:26 am
AARON
You may be right about South Carolina but the Military plays well in there as well. I hope that Huckabee doesn’t stab him in the back the way Little Bush did last time.
64 Justin Thibault // Jan 9, 2008 at 12:53 pm
Aaron - As an Evangelical nutjob myself, I think that our people in SC have a choice between Huckabee and Thompson. Military people also like Thompson. I don’t think McCain will win there; and I’m not sure about Thompson. My prediction for SC: the fourth paragraph in every roundup of Republican candidates in newspapers will be “surprised” at how many FredHeads showed up in SC.
Steve - As “The Man From Hope”, Huckabee’s going to do what it takes to win. I think there’s more animosity between his camp and Romney than there is between any two other campaigns on either side of the aisle. However, if Romney doesn’t pull it off in Michigan and McCain comes out on top - you’ll see some serious jabs at McCain in SC for sure from the Husksters.
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